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		<title>By: Gina Rubel</title>
		<link>http://smartblogs.com/social-media/2008/12/18/andys-take-pr-people-make-the-best-social-media-exs/#comment-33634</link>
		<dc:creator>Gina Rubel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy - I couldn&#039;t agree more, although I&#039;m definitely biased. It&#039;s all about communicating strategically and effectively with your &quot;publics&quot; - that&#039;s public relations. Social media has given us tons of tools to be more direct and more effective (while taking more time than it ever did before even with the immediacy of today&#039;s digital world). It&#039;s so important to integrate marketing, advertising, and public relations into social media engagement and then track the returns. Gina RubelFuria Rubel Communications / Public Relations &amp; Marketing&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.FuriaRubel.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.FuriaRubel.com&lt;/a&gt;&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.FuriaRubel.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (Web site)&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ThePRLawyer.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ThePRLawyer.com&lt;/a&gt;&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.ThePRLawyer.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (blog) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy &#8211; I couldn&#039;t agree more, although I&#039;m definitely biased. It&#039;s all about communicating strategically and effectively with your &quot;publics&quot; &#8211; that&#039;s public relations. Social media has given us tons of tools to be more direct and more effective (while taking more time than it ever did before even with the immediacy of today&#039;s digital world). It&#039;s so important to integrate marketing, advertising, and public relations into social media engagement and then track the returns. Gina RubelFuria Rubel Communications / Public Relations &amp; Marketing<a href="http://www.FuriaRubel.com" rel="nofollow"> &lt;a href=&quot;</a><a href="http://www.FuriaRubel.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.FuriaRubel.com</a>&#8221; target=&#8221;_blank&#8221;&gt;www.FuriaRubel.com (Web site)<a href="http://www.ThePRLawyer.com" rel="nofollow"> &lt;a href=&quot;</a><a href="http://www.ThePRLawyer.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ThePRLawyer.com</a>&#8221; target=&#8221;_blank&#8221;&gt;www.ThePRLawyer.com (blog)</p>
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		<title>By: The future of PR</title>
		<link>http://smartblogs.com/social-media/2008/12/18/andys-take-pr-people-make-the-best-social-media-exs/#comment-33633</link>
		<dc:creator>The future of PR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] From a column I wrote for Smart Brief on Social Media, where I am Editor-at-Large:  PR executives make the best social media executives. There is a similar mindset. Traditional media relations requires finding the right influencers, building trust, and sharing credible, relevant stories. Translating those actions to social media &#8212; replacing reporters with the bigger community &#8212; is exactly how to run a great social media program. (Read the rest here.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] From a column I wrote for Smart Brief on Social Media, where I am Editor-at-Large:  PR executives make the best social media executives. There is a similar mindset. Traditional media relations requires finding the right influencers, building trust, and sharing credible, relevant stories. Translating those actions to social media &#8212; replacing reporters with the bigger community &#8212; is exactly how to run a great social media program. (Read the rest here.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Petherick</title>
		<link>http://smartblogs.com/social-media/2008/12/18/andys-take-pr-people-make-the-best-social-media-exs/#comment-33632</link>
		<dc:creator>David Petherick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops - that link got slightly mangled: 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://digitalbiographer.com/2009/01/05/237-reasons-to-read-aoc2-day-5-quote-19/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://digitalbiographer.com/2009/01/05/237-reaso...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops &#8211; that link got slightly mangled:<br />
  <a href="http://digitalbiographer.com/2009/01/05/237-reasons-to-read-aoc2-day-5-quote-19/" rel="nofollow">http://digitalbiographer.com/2009/01/05/237-reaso&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Petherick</title>
		<link>http://smartblogs.com/social-media/2008/12/18/andys-take-pr-people-make-the-best-social-media-exs/#comment-33631</link>
		<dc:creator>David Petherick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s not sensible to be too prescriptive, although my instinct would normally place a PR-aware individual at an advantage in taking a position in social media - but it is about starting conversation and dialogue, rather than pushing a story out, and social media is too often viewed as just another &#039;broadcast&#039; channel - an stance that&#039;s doomed to fail. 
 
By coincidence I blogged on a similar topic a few days ago when reviewing Adrian Ho&#039;s chapter in the book &#039;Age of Conversation&#039; see &lt;a href=&quot;http://digitalbiographer.com/2009/01/05/237-reasons-to-read-aoc2-day-5-quote-19/where&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://digitalbiographer.com/2009/01/05/237-reaso...&lt;/a&gt; Adrian said &quot;we can design interactions that allow our customers to really participate.&quot; 
 
As Andy says, building trust and delivering credible stories is key - but it&#039;s important to understand that, in essence, everyone is an influencer just as important as any other - even though short-term &#039;results&#039; might be perceived as something achieveable by just having a few key blogs and individuals covering your story. 
 
Social Media is about conversation as much as story-telling - and that needs a mouth and two ears, used proportionately. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#039;s not sensible to be too prescriptive, although my instinct would normally place a PR-aware individual at an advantage in taking a position in social media &#8211; but it is about starting conversation and dialogue, rather than pushing a story out, and social media is too often viewed as just another &#039;broadcast&#039; channel &#8211; an stance that&#039;s doomed to fail. </p>
<p>By coincidence I blogged on a similar topic a few days ago when reviewing Adrian Ho&#039;s chapter in the book &#039;Age of Conversation&#039; see <a href="http://digitalbiographer.com/2009/01/05/237-reasons-to-read-aoc2-day-5-quote-19/where" rel="nofollow">http://digitalbiographer.com/2009/01/05/237-reaso&#8230;</a> Adrian said &quot;we can design interactions that allow our customers to really participate.&quot; </p>
<p>As Andy says, building trust and delivering credible stories is key &#8211; but it&#039;s important to understand that, in essence, everyone is an influencer just as important as any other &#8211; even though short-term &#039;results&#039; might be perceived as something achieveable by just having a few key blogs and individuals covering your story. </p>
<p>Social Media is about conversation as much as story-telling &#8211; and that needs a mouth and two ears, used proportionately.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Parker</title>
		<link>http://smartblogs.com/social-media/2008/12/18/andys-take-pr-people-make-the-best-social-media-exs/#comment-33630</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think both Andy and Dr Wright are wrong (but also partly right). 
 
The best social media execs will be those who understand what is expected and perform the role without falling back into their old habits (i.e. selling at every opportunity or blasting crap out into the socialsphere). So if the company fails to adequately define what is expected from the role then whomever&#8217;s in that role will fall back on what they know best. 
 
Andy, what you describe under &#8216;my take&#8217; (in my opinion) is typical of why mainstream businesses are hesitating before getting right into Social Media &#8211; you make this new way seem like the old way with a bit of spit and polish &#8211; or more accurately a wolf in sheep&#8217;s clothing. You seem to indicate you think one of social media&#8217;s key goals is to find and manipulate? 
 
Social media is about web sites and sales, just as it is about establishing a dialogue and allowing the community to have freedom to explore and have an opinion. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think both Andy and Dr Wright are wrong (but also partly right). </p>
<p>The best social media execs will be those who understand what is expected and perform the role without falling back into their old habits (i.e. selling at every opportunity or blasting crap out into the socialsphere). So if the company fails to adequately define what is expected from the role then whomever&rsquo;s in that role will fall back on what they know best. </p>
<p>Andy, what you describe under &lsquo;my take&rsquo; (in my opinion) is typical of why mainstream businesses are hesitating before getting right into Social Media &ndash; you make this new way seem like the old way with a bit of spit and polish &ndash; or more accurately a wolf in sheep&rsquo;s clothing. You seem to indicate you think one of social media&rsquo;s key goals is to find and manipulate? </p>
<p>Social media is about web sites and sales, just as it is about establishing a dialogue and allowing the community to have freedom to explore and have an opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not agree. PR executives usually see social media as another microphone for what they are doing. I rarely see them creating or maintaining relationships in social media. They just blast out some ads and charge clients extra for a special &quot;social media&quot; press release. Social means Social- it means relationships and you can not pay someone else to maintain your relationships. Just like you can not pay someone to maintain your spousal relationship. You have to show up. 
 
 
Dr. Wright 
The Wright place TV Show  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wrightplacetv.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.wrightplacetv.com&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.twitter.com/drwright1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.twitter.com/drwright1&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not agree. PR executives usually see social media as another microphone for what they are doing. I rarely see them creating or maintaining relationships in social media. They just blast out some ads and charge clients extra for a special &quot;social media&quot; press release. Social means Social- it means relationships and you can not pay someone else to maintain your relationships. Just like you can not pay someone to maintain your spousal relationship. You have to show up. </p>
<p>Dr. Wright<br />
The Wright place TV Show  <a href="http://www.wrightplacetv.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.wrightplacetv.com</a>  <a href="http://www.twitter.com/drwright1" rel="nofollow">http://www.twitter.com/drwright1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Carrot Blog &#8212; Social Media &#38; PR&#8212;the golden relationship?</title>
		<link>http://smartblogs.com/social-media/2008/12/18/andys-take-pr-people-make-the-best-social-media-exs/#comment-33628</link>
		<dc:creator>Carrot Blog &#8212; Social Media &#38; PR&#8212;the golden relationship?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this and who he think should be running the social media world: PR executives. As Andy says, &#8220;PR executives make the best social media executives. There is a similar mindset. Traditional media relations requires finding the right influencers, [...]</description>
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